Comments on: #webcomicschat- What’s In A Name? http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/ All ages comic strip for geeks and their kids. Tue, 21 May 2013 03:19:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Patrick http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1272 Patrick Wed, 25 May 2011 23:58:51 +0000 http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1272 I totally agree. I totally agree.

]]> By: Will http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1271 Will Wed, 25 May 2011 23:27:28 +0000 http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1271 As an aspiring webcomic writer I have always found Mr Kurtz attitude a bit jarring. I can understand that he wants to grow his brand and that is resectable, but to do so and spit in the face of anyone else, especially those who got their start, inspired by him is an insult. As an aspiring webcomic writer I have always found Mr Kurtz attitude a bit jarring. I can understand that he wants to grow his brand and that is resectable, but to do so and spit in the face of anyone else, especially those who got their start, inspired by him is an insult.

]]> By: Thorne http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1261 Thorne Fri, 20 May 2011 14:29:02 +0000 http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1261 Wow, so many great opinions and the word "Cromulent!" this is an interesting discussion to be sure! Wow, so many great opinions and the word “Cromulent!” this is an interesting discussion to be sure!

]]> By: Patrick http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1260 Patrick Fri, 20 May 2011 02:24:42 +0000 http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1260 Personally I'm quite happy with the label of webcomics. One of the reasons I've been so enthusiastic about them is the idea that anyone can participate and the idea that you've got the freedom to chart your own course. That's why I'm a bit disappointed in Kurtz's comments. I worry that he wants to create an in crowd by saying that webcomics is a word that only the neophytes would use. Personally I’m quite happy with the label of webcomics. One of the reasons I’ve been so enthusiastic about them is the idea that anyone can participate and the idea that you’ve got the freedom to chart your own course. That’s why I’m a bit disappointed in Kurtz’s comments. I worry that he wants to create an in crowd by saying that webcomics is a word that only the neophytes would use.

]]> By: Michael Phelps http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1259 Michael Phelps Fri, 20 May 2011 00:43:11 +0000 http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1259 Yeah, I listened in the day they did this podcast. Then I listened to it again. I know Kurtz is an "Eisner" winner. But so am I...well...I own half of one. I was a ghost cartoonist for a world wide strip for a short period. It was a newspaper strip so back then (1978) I was just a cartoonist. Period. But I was also a commercial - graphic - typesetter [key-line] - line artist - etc. But I was lumped under just commercial artist. Others chose to separate themselves to a specific title in other studios and companies. So, to say you are a web cartoonist, I feel, it is just fine. It may be a growing club but I am glad I am a member. However, and I did get a 'tone' from that podcast, if you feel it is now a lower denominator to be associated in that group, welp, fine. I guess. Everyone who does this stuff, online or print, is a cartoonist. Get over the labels and get on with the drawing. (I just came up with that) :) Yeah, I listened in the day they did this podcast. Then I listened to it again. I know Kurtz is an “Eisner” winner. But so am I…well…I own half of one. I was a ghost cartoonist for a world wide strip for a short period. It was a newspaper strip so back then (1978) I was just a cartoonist. Period. But I was also a commercial – graphic – typesetter [key-line] – line artist – etc. But I was lumped under just commercial artist. Others chose to separate themselves to a specific title in other studios and companies. So, to say you are a web cartoonist, I feel, it is just fine. It may be a growing club but I am glad I am a member. However, and I did get a ‘tone’ from that podcast, if you feel it is now a lower denominator to be associated in that group, welp, fine. I guess. Everyone who does this stuff, online or print, is a cartoonist. Get over the labels and get on with the drawing. (I just came up with that) :)

]]> By: George http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1257 George Thu, 19 May 2011 22:06:54 +0000 http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1257 I've contemplated and wondered about whether to drop the "webcomic" moniker from my description of my series and just calling it what it is: "comic strips" or just plain "comics". I agree that, in the beginning, there had to be a delineation so folks would know the difference, but know it seems to be understood. It's like how they no longer described movies with sound as "talkes" eventually. I’ve contemplated and wondered about whether to drop the “webcomic” moniker from my description of my series and just calling it what it is: “comic strips” or just plain “comics”.

I agree that, in the beginning, there had to be a delineation so folks would know the difference, but know it seems to be understood. It’s like how they no longer described movies with sound as “talkes” eventually.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1255 Patrick Wed, 18 May 2011 17:04:38 +0000 http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1255 Dude, new vocabulary word for the day "cromulent" :) So true the name doesn't matter the stereotype will remain. Dude, new vocabulary word for the day “cromulent” :) So true the name doesn’t matter the stereotype will remain.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1254 Andrew Wed, 18 May 2011 07:15:09 +0000 http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1254 I'm rather strongly of the opinion that "webcomic" is a perfectly cromulent word, because a lot of terms have evolved to differentiate the various forms of comics available. Most of the others manage to have negative connotations, too. Like "comic strip," buried somewhere in the newspaper, many of which are on their third or fourth generation of creators. Or "comic book," the home of adolescent power fantasies marketed to 30-somethings. Or "manga," the imported stuff with the robots and tentacles. Which might seem unfair, but stereotypes exist because examples can be found. Coming up with a new name for webcomics as a whole will just transfer any stigma, and trying to come up with a special term for the "good stuff," is pure elitism on the face of it. I’m rather strongly of the opinion that “webcomic” is a perfectly cromulent word, because a lot of terms have evolved to differentiate the various forms of comics available. Most of the others manage to have negative connotations, too. Like “comic strip,” buried somewhere in the newspaper, many of which are on their third or fourth generation of creators. Or “comic book,” the home of adolescent power fantasies marketed to 30-somethings. Or “manga,” the imported stuff with the robots and tentacles. Which might seem unfair, but stereotypes exist because examples can be found. Coming up with a new name for webcomics as a whole will just transfer any stigma, and trying to come up with a special term for the “good stuff,” is pure elitism on the face of it.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1253 Patrick Wed, 18 May 2011 00:34:27 +0000 http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1253 This is turning into a great discussion. Well said! This is turning into a great discussion. Well said!

]]> By: Thorne http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1252 Thorne Tue, 17 May 2011 23:53:53 +0000 http://www.supersiblingscomics.com/2011/05/17/webcomicschat-whats-in-a-name/#comment-1252 I believe this is an issue we will be discussing more and more over the next few years as we continue to develop as not only a medium but as a genre. I think that the term "webcomic" is a double edged sword. To some it screams "amateur" and to ne honest the percentage of "Professional" comic artists (whether publishing directly on the web or in print or in both.) Is so small that it makes the larger percentage seem amateur or unprofessional. But within that argument lies the problem that both of the terms amateur and professional are largely subjective. What defines a professional comic compared to an amateur? Number of visitors? A published book? T-shirts and other merchandise? Or how about never missing an update or making a profit? There are a lot of comics out there who fit some of those descriptions but only a select few, if any that meet all of them. Even Kurtz misses update. What I believe is we need to as a group find some common ground to work from and see what we can do together instead of squabbling amongst ourselves. We can't even agree on what we are, because of our diversity. We seem to be afraid of the comics model that has existed for so long (syndicates) that we see that as the only "other" system out there. I love that I can create, I love that I can have the freedom to put whatever I want in my comic. But then again i'm just an amateur... Thank you for listening. I believe this is an issue we will be discussing more and more over the next few years as we continue to develop as not only a medium but as a genre. I think that the term “webcomic” is a double edged sword. To some it screams “amateur” and to ne honest the percentage of “Professional” comic artists (whether publishing directly on the web or in print or in both.) Is so small that it makes the larger percentage seem amateur or unprofessional. But within that argument lies the problem that both of the terms amateur and professional are largely subjective. What defines a professional comic compared to an amateur? Number of visitors? A published book? T-shirts and other merchandise? Or how about never missing an update or making a profit? There are a lot of comics out there who fit some of those descriptions but only a select few, if any that meet all of them. Even Kurtz misses update. What I believe is we need to as a group find some common ground to work from and see what we can do together instead of squabbling amongst ourselves. We can’t even agree on what we are, because of our diversity. We seem to be afraid of the comics model that has existed for so long (syndicates) that we see that as the only “other” system out there. I love that I can create, I love that I can have the freedom to put whatever I want in my comic. But then again i’m just an amateur… Thank you for listening.

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